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Where will we be in 50 years? August 27, 2006

Posted by Evil Bender in News and politics, bigotry.
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Against my better judgement, I’m feel the need to respond to Marshwiggle’s latest post. He’s concerned that Pat Buchanan is right, and that the US will shortly see Caucasians become a minority:

Let’s see if we can agree on what America is now- Predominantly white, english speaking, predominately christian/roman catholic w/ a 40/40 split republican democrat, with politicians from both parties invoking God when convenient.

Where will America be 50 years from now? Predominately Hispanic, spanish speaking and roman catholic.

Let’s assume that it’s true that whites will no longer be a majority by 2056. It doesn’t follow that we’ll be speaking Spanish. In fact, almost all immigrant populations speak English exclusively or primarily by the 3rd Generation. In other words, the Spanish-speakers coming to this country now will have grand and great-grandchildren speaking English, and since English is the official language, they’ll likely be thrilled about it. After all, don’t we all hope our children have more opportunities than we did?

And besides this, what will be the real problem with any of it? Where’s the harm in Spanish-speaking? As a white man, I’m looking forward to whites losing majority status. We’ve done little with it but cause harm, and it seems unlikely that things would get worse once other racial groups have more political power. If nothing else, we could use the varying voices.

But then we see what Marshwiggle’s really concerned about:

Where will Europe be? Predominately arabic and muslim.

This is shakier. The immegration patterns in Europe are more complex, and it’s not at all clear that such patterns will continue regardless of what is happening in the Middle-East. But even if it’s true, one could ask, so what? Why should Europe continue to be a white-dominated area forever?

Here’s the bad news, folks. Liberals, the world doesn’t care about your overpopulation theories. Third world Roman catholics and Muslims don’t give a whit about your theories like the spineless politicians in america have. There’s no sitting on the fence or being converted to less children.

These aren’t theories: overpopulation is a huge problem, and likely to get worse. Marshwiggle is right that not everyone is on board with population control, but guess what? That doesn’t change the facts. We shouldn’t respond to a refusal to use birth control in the developing world by trying to out-race them. We should expand our push for education so that as many people as possible can make informed decisions about family planning. What we should not do is try to outbreed those we don’t like.

Check out the attitudes of islam and the majority of hispanics on treasured liberal ideals such as gay marriage and abortion. Check out the attitudes on women’s rights. Then let me know how evil the current “christians” that you are dealing with are.

This kind of argument is getting repeated often on the right these days, and it’s consistently fuzzy. This is the intellectual equivalent of saying “I only hit you once a week; that other guy would hit you every night. Be grateful!” I agree that there are a lot of people in the world who do no better than Fundamentalist Christians on subjects of equal rights. But attitudes change, and it is not on racial–or even religious–lines that they do so. They change because people can be persuaded. Ga Marriage, while still unpopular, has gained much support over the last twenty years. In twenty more years, it will be majority-supported. This isn’t because we’re white, but because ideas have power.

We’re going from “intolerance” to non existent. The masses always end up running the show, and liberals have bred and aborted themselves into minority status while dragging the caucasian and african american communities with them.

How dare we not have as many kids as we can before our women hit menopause or die? We’re so evil! We’ve doomed ourselves by moderately curtailing our already massively over-consumptive society. And by being “dragged down,” of course, Marshwiggle means we won’t be a majority. But remember, folks, this isn’t a racist thing. It’s just that we handle things better than those Muslims.

You know what? I accept where the world will be in fifty years. If I wanted to fight it, I’d be called racist or worse. I’m just trying to give another blogosphere heads up to the fact that we are busy fighting battles that the new people taking over will rewrite. It kind of puts things into perspective, and I feel sorry for us all. The new world will be different than the one we grew up in, and if you were born in the majority, we’ve noone to blame but ourselves.

If Marshwiggle doesn’t want to be called racist, why is he lamenting normal patterns of population change? If he’s so concerned, perhaps he should be working wtih us evil non-reproducing liberals to actually uphold republican ideals, rather than continue our pattern of oppressing anyone we can to help ourselves out. There’s lots of reason to believe that people will chose democracy when truly give the choice, and even if they don’t, it’s the height of hypocrisy to try to uphold democracy by forcing others to be democratic.

We will have to see then if any other group of people is idiotic enough to breed itself out of the majority in order to save the world as they know it. We did, only the world changed on us. How unfair is that? About par for life. :)

This, I’m sorry to say, is staggeringly racist. No one has been “bread out of the majority” and even if they had, the only way that could be considered a problem is if we assume that the preferred state is that white people be a majority.

Unlike Marshwiggle, I have hope for the future. There are many reasons to be discourged with the course of contemporary politics, but I am certain that if we hope to find the future brighter than the present, we must move past the racist politics that assume that the best world is the one where we are in charge. The world we must work to create is a world where people can work together despite their differences and find that life does not have to a about us-versus-them, but rather about what we all must do to preserve the world for future generations.

As long as we buy into adversarial, binary politics, there is no hope that the world will ever be a place where we can do any better than try to one-up people who are different from us. It is this political process that Marshwiggle sees and implicitly reinforces.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going back to aborting babies and telling people not to have kids.

Comments»

1. sketchgirl - August 30, 2006

I agree, the world is having and going to have major issues with population vs. sustainablity. I read on a right-wing blog (can’t recall the name) fairly recently about how ‘Europe is breeding itself out of existence’ with a an average of around 1.4 (not the exact figure, but thereabouts) children per couple. Commenters scoffed at theories of population problems and proceeded to congratulate each other on how the US was doing her bit for the human race by continuing to pro-create at an ‘acceptable’ level (ie. higher than Europe) – which I thought was madness! It was quite amusing though. I have an idea that the 1.4 children born to Europeans will have better education, healthcare and standard of living than many children in the US can look forward to.

2. josephnadir - August 31, 2006

evilbender: These aren’t theories: overpopulation is a huge problem

So you are basically saying that overpopulation is a fact. Surely you are not saying that there are too many people in the world, so what exactly are you saying?

I hope that you realize that the Population Bomb’s predictions
have been debunked. In fact, the “rate at which the world’s population has been increasing every year has been gradually declining since the early 1970s”

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