Phyllis Schlafly: wouldn’t pass my composition class October 3, 2007
Posted by Evil Bender in education, language and lit, wingnuts.trackback
Sadly, No! and Shakesville are already all over Phyllis Schlafly’s latest screed, “Advice to College Students: Don’t Major in English,” but I’ll take a moment to bring my expertise to the subject. You see, Schafly’s problem is that she can’t write as well as my Junior Comp students. In fact, her essay would fail at the Freshman level.* So to support the cause of education, I will provide comments for Schlafly so that she can better her writing.
Before I get to that, though, let me add this: if I were Schlafly, I’d be terrified of English, too: a good English education will help teach critical thinking, and even a little of that is enough to show Schlafly for the intellectual lightweight she is.
Now, on to her essay:
The bad news is that Shakespeare has disappeared from required courses in English departments at more than three-fourths of the top 25 U.S. universities, but the good news is that only 1.6 percent of America’s 19 million undergraduates major in English, according to Department of Education figures.
Always cite your sources, Ms Schlafly.
When I visit college campuses, students for years have been telling me that the English departments are the most radicalized of all departments, more so than sociology, psychology, anthropology, or even women’s studies.
Anecdotal evidence from a self-selected group of people is not particularly persuasive. Can you provide some hard data to back this up?
That’s why it was no surprise that Cho Seung-Hui, the murderer of 32 students and teachers at Virginia Tech, was an English major.
So radicalization leads to murder? Sloppy thinking like this will alienate your audience, Ms Schlafly. If you are going to seriously make the case that English is responsible for the VT shootings, you need much more evidence.
In the decades before “progressive” education became the vogue, English majors were required to study Shakespeare, the pre-eminent author of English literature. The premise was that students should be introduced to the best that has been thought and said.
Are universities no longer interested in teaching good literature, then? Again, you will need to provide evidence.
What happened? To borrow words from Hamlet: “Though this be madness, yet there is method in it.” Universities deliberately replaced courses in the great authors of English literature with what professors openly call “fresh concerns,” “under-represented cultures,” and “ethnic or non-Western literature.”
So the only great authors were white Europeans with a Y Chromosome, then?
When the classics are assigned, they are victims of the academic fad called deconstructionism. That means: pay no mind to what the author wrote or meant; deconstruct him and construct your own interpretation, as in a Vanderbilt University course called “Shakespearean Sexuality,” or “Chaucer: Gender and Genre” at Hamilton College.
Your ideas here are not logically connected. In addition, it hurts your credibility to discuss deconstuctionism without demonstrating an understanding of what it means.
The facts about what universities are teaching English majors were exposed this year by the American Council of Trustees and Alumni. English majors are offered a potpourri of worthless courses.
You might wish to provide a link to their work here. In addition, what does “worthless” mean? Are you more able to decide what is worthwhile than specialists in English and university administrators? If so, why?
Some English department courses are really sociology or politics.
Examples are “Gender and Sociopolitical Activism in 20th Century Feminist Utopias” at Macalester College; “Of Nags, Bitches and Shrews: Women and Animals in Western Literature” at Dartmouth College; and “African and Diasporic Ecological Literature” at Bates College.
Should English departments then require their teachers to avoid mentioning the social and political context of the work? Perhaps you believe Dickens should not be evaluated in terms of its cultural concerns, but many would disagree.
Many undergraduate courses focus on extremely specialized subjects of interest only to the professor who is trying to “publish or perish,” but of virtually no value to students. Examples are: “Beast Culture: Animals, Identity, and Western Literature” at the University of Pennsylvania; and “Food and Literature” at Swarthmore College.
You could not have known this, but I took a “Food and Literature” course and found it enlightening and worthwhile. And, Ms. Schlafly, I would humbly suggest that my English major left me well-equipped to discuss the classics. If you disagree, I would happily pit my own knowledge against your own.
Some English departments offer courses in pop culture. Examples are: “It’s Only Rock and Roll” at the University of California San Diego; “Animals, Cannibals, Vegetables” at Emory University; “Cool Theory” at Duke University; and “The Cult of Celebrity: Icons in Performance, Garbo to Madonna” at the University of Pennsylvania.
Why is pop culture not an acceptable subject for English? Shakespeare was writing popular literature.
Of course, English professors now love to teach about sex. Examples are: “Shakesqueer” at American University; “Queer Studies” at Bates College; “Promiscuity and the Novel” at Columbia University; and “Sexing the Past” at Georgetown University.
Perhaps you would like to draw up a list of which topics English departments cannot mention when discussing literature so they will know. Perhaps you could benefit from one of the widely-available Shakespeare classes, which would demonstrate how Shakespeare includes a great deal of bawdy themes and homoerotic tensions. These complaints seem to indicate that you have little understanding of what actually goes on in an English class, and severely hurt your credibility.
Some English-department courses really belong in a weirdo department. Examples are: “Creepy Kids in Fiction and Film” at Duke University, which focuses on “weirdoes, creeps, freaks, and geeks of the truly evil variety”; “Bodies of the Middle Ages: Embodiment, Incarnation, Practice” at Cornell University; “The Conceptual Black Body in Twentieth-Century and Contemporary Visual Culture” at Mount Holyoke College; and “Folklore and the Body” at Oberlin College.
Without a discussion of these courses’ content, this list is roughly as valuable as writing a paper on Shakespeare without having looked beyond the table of contents.
Replacing the classics with authors of children’s literature is now common. Assigned readings for college students include Dr. Seuss, J.K. Rowling, The Wizard of Oz, and Snow White.
Of course, children’s literature has no value. How silly that anyone would think otherwise!
Twenty years ago, University of Chicago Professor Allan Bloom achieved best-seller lists and fame with his book “The Closing of the American Mind.” He dated the change in academic curricula from the 1960s when universities began to abandon the classic works of literature and instead adopt multicultural readings written by untalented, unimportant women and minorities.
Bloom’s book showed how the Western canon of what educated Americans should know – from Socrates to Shakespeare – was replaced with relativism and the goals of opposing racism, sexism and elitism. Current works promoting multiculturalism written by women and minorities replaced the classics of Western civilization written by the DWEMs, Dead White European Males.
I applaud you on finally bringing in some outside evidence. However, do you truly believe no literature worth studying has been written since Shakespeare, or by anyone but “DWEMs”?
Left-wing academics, often called tenured radicals, eagerly spread the message, and students at Stanford in 1988 chanted “Hey hey, ho ho, Western civ has got to go.” The classicists were cowed into silence, and it’s now clear that the multiculturalists won the canon wars.
Why is this “clear”? It might be worth noting whether students are actually studying western literature in English classes. Without further support, your essay seems mainly to argue that women and people of color cannot contribute to literature.
Shakespeare, Chaucer and Milton have been replaced by living authors who toe the line of multicultural political correctness, i.e., view everything through the lens of race, gender and class based on the assumption that America is a discriminatory and unjust racist and patriarchal society. The only good news is that students seldom read books any more and use Cliffs Notes for books they might be assigned.
I suspect you mean the final sentence to be ironic, but it does not make you likely to persuade anyone that you truly value education and reading.
The American Council of Trustees and Alumni says “a degree in English without Shakespeare is like an M.D. without a course in anatomy. It is tantamount to fraud.”
A survey of English courses would tell you that many universities find Shakespeare courses among their most valuable. If you can find evidence that students are in fact not exposed to Shakespeare, please provide it.
College students: Don’t waste your scarce college dollars on a major in English.
I applaud you on providing a thesis.
In conclusion, Ms Schlafly, you provide almost no evidence to support your claims, you make choices that alienate your audience and that demonstrate you do not have a thorough knowledge of the subjects you discuss. These choices serve to make you appear foolish and uninformed, and in fact seem to suggest that your only real problem is with the idea that anyone but white Men might be good writers.
And one more thing, Ms Schlafly: experts on Shakespeare agree that his work is dripping with sexual innuendo, as well as issues of gender, race and class. If you truly care about the study of Shakespeare, you might wish to support contemporary English departments.
*I’m not joking. I would happily pit my students’ critical thinking skills and analysis against Schlafly’s. Just yesterday my talented, articulate students shredded this Irving Kristol essay for its failure to provide evidence and support for its claims.
It’s no wonder that the Schlafly family is involved with Conservapedia.
To quote one of America’s great lyricists, Jello Biafra:
“Blow it out your ass Phillis Schlafly”.
So shouldn’t her final conclusion be that making English the official language of the United States would create more Cho Seung-Hui’s?
What a dumbass.
what year is this? 1901?
My biggest problem with English classes is that they call the department “English.” In one class, we read a book that was originally written in some African language that had the words (mostly) translated but kept the same punctuation and paragraphing style as the original. The book was fine and studying the themes etc in it was ok, but why the hell is it called “English” then?
Ah, the classic “list the names of college courses” gambit. Thus proving — without considering their reading list, content, themes or context — that they are degenerate commie filth. Surely a course with a title like “Animals, Cannibals, Vegetables” could never present anything that a decent midwesterner would approve of. Heaven forfend.
I took some English courses with some weird-ass themes, and every one of them had at least one reading from “classic” literature.
The best lit course I ever took was called “Freaky Narratives” and explored everything from the classics to “trashy” pop literature in 19th century America.
It was a wonderful experience and I learned a great deal. But of course Schlafly wouldn’t have understood a word.
Personally, I hope the repugnacans stop sending their kids off to college, or start right wing university. They will breed themselves deeper into stupidity and disappear.
Idiots like Schlafly don’t read literature because they enjoy it but because it will look good on their resume. Shakespeare would not have tolerated dolts like that. If art doesn’t speak to you as it is, if you can’t appreciate it for what it is, then why would tell everyone else they need to study it?
On the other hand… I was studying in an English department that got “taken over” by postmodern/deconstructionist theorist types, and we went from studying literature to studying people theorizing about literature using the most arcane polysyllabic obfuscation you can imagine–hundreds and hundreds of pages of theory written, oddly enough, by people who kept insisting in said pages that written language didn’t mean anything. It was exhausting. Believe me, deconstructionists are far more Joseph Goebbels than Keith Richards. They’ll piss all over Toni Morrison as quickly as they’ll set fire to Blake. But the Schlafly essay only serves to make everyone run in their direction….
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Schlafly,
I’d say you’d best try again. The liberal here has completely dismantled your argument- or your Conservapedia thoughts.
Methinks, however, there’s method in your madness, Phyllis. Your conservative plot is afoot, yet it came to stubbing its toe here.
This was a good analysis of an important subject. My thanks to “evilbender” and to Crooks and Liars for linking to you. I will be back.
The sad thing about Schlafly, and even Bloom to a certain extent, is that there IS a problem with students and their orientation towards reading; there is a problem with How To Teach Literature, and What Literature To Teach.
As you correctly point out, 1. she doesn’t know what she is talking about, and 2. when she celebrates students who do not read or Cliff’s Notes (she is 376 years old or she would know that students read Spark, not Cliff’s), she is celebrating ignorance and cheating.
I teach college English, and I cannot even teach Sherman Alexie’s great poem “Defending Walt Whitman” because not only do students know the Native American/First Nation culture that Alexie is so skilled at burnishing onto the soul of a literate reader, they cannot understand the poem at all because they have “no idea” who Walt Whitman is.
Students far too often have NO literacy; they have not been radicalized, they have gone to school for 12 to 16 years (depending on their pre-school) and they have no idea what literature is and no interest in discovering it.
Ohfergawdsakes.
I invite Ms Schlafly to get an English degree from any accredited, reputable university in America and see much of the Western canon she’ll get on her way to 40 credit hours in degree-focused content. In my case, I got all of Shakespeare, plenty of Marlowe, the early playwrights, Milton, Chaucer, Beowulf, Ovid, Homer, and on and on and on. Western Lit 1 and 2 offered brutal reading lists. If you want a degree in English, you’d better love reading because you’ll get plenty of it.
And when you’re lucky, you get something a bit unusual to sharpen your wits on. Any fool like David Horowitz can thumb through a dozen course catalogs and find some questionable course titles. And that means a degree in English is worthless?
Is this woman high on crack?
Students far too often have NO literacy; they have not been radicalized, they have gone to school for 12 to 16 years (depending on their pre-school) and they have no idea what literature is and no interest in discovering it.
Very good point. Those of us who care abound language and lit could do a better job of explaining why literature still matters. There are programs working on that. Check out Poetry Out Loud–getting high school students to care about poetry? Unheard of!
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Seeing that Shakespear was essentially providing the people of London with that era’s “American Idol” or “Survivor” or whatever’s the latest TV dreck, I find it hilarious that ole’ Phyllis has gotten a case of the vapors over her perception that the author is getting a raw deal in today’s higher education. He was a simply popular entertainer, this non-english major biologist finds it hard to see how he is getting the shining pedestal he sits on as it is. Didn’t he steal most of what he wrote anyway?
Thanks for the link, EB. ;-)
This reminds me of when I had writing classes with a girl who used phrases like “hell hole in the wall” and when I pointed out that she was jumbling two commonly known phrases and it was confusing, she said, “That’s just how I talk.” Great…but your’e writing now and if your reader has to stop, scratch their head and wonder if you’ve messed up the saying on purpose or because you’re dumb, it’s not a good thing.
Phyllis is right. Postmodernist “literature” does seem to be rather radical. I don’t know if much good can come out of studying most of it. And the fact that you wouldn’t let her pass your junior composition class based on her ideology adds credence to her point that English profs are becoming rather subjective.
My degree in English from a weirdo college mentioned in her article granted me access to a top ten law school (at Berkeley, the mothership of liberalism) which resulted in six-figure salary as a corporate lawyer. I can see how she thinks I’ve gone wrong with my degree.
Despite how weird she thinks my alma mater, Mount Holyoke College, is based on its inclusion of one course, she failed to note the rigorous requirements for the English degree including several survey courses designed to give a student a deep and rich understanding of literature throughout the ages.
Her selective reasoning results in no reasoning at all. She continues to be histrionic and completely irrelevant.
Schildan: It doesn’t appear that Evil Bender wouldn’t let her pass because of idealogy, but rather because her writing is poor and offers little proof for the statements it makes.
Miss Sh. writes “Examples are “Gender and Sociopolitical Activism in 20th Century Feminist Utopias” at Macalester College; “Of Nags, Bitches and Shrews: Women and Animals in Western Literature” at Dartmouth College; and “African and Diasporic Ecological Literature” at Bates College.
You responded: Should English departments then require their teachers to avoid mentioning the social and political context of the work? Perhaps you believe Dickens should not be evaluated in terms of its cultural concerns, but many would disagree.”
My response: Teaching the context of Dickens seems far removed from courses carrying the above referenced titles. Are you now guilty of setting up your own straw man?
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Teaching the context of Dickens seems far removed from courses carrying the above referenced titles. Are you now guilty of setting up your own straw man?
Organizing one’s class around culturally significant themes would be a great way to approach Dickens. In particular, the second of her mentioned titles would be a great chance to talk about Dickens.
I don’t believe I’m creating a straw man at all: she’s the one proposing courses that cover various aspects of a work are somehow invalid. I’m pointing out she hasn’t defended that claim.
you wouldn’t let her pass your junior composition class based on her ideology
Your reading comprehension skills are rather lacking, and that would no doubt cause you difficulty in an English class.
Excellent commentary, Mr. Bender. Here’s to hoping you’ll do similar posts in the future! :D
After reading Mrs Schlafly’s rant, all I want to do is take some of those courses. They sound fascinating.
I’d like to know why “Bodies of the Middle Ages: Embodiment, Incarnation, Practice” is such a weirdo course, too. It sounds like a reason to take a course in English rather than a reason *not* to. I’d love to take a look at the reading list, it has almost infinite possibilities.
And just for the record, as someone who has taken both English and Sociology courses at a University level (granted it was in New Zealand rather than America) I can say that you may study similar themes in both subjects but you are given different material to work with.
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Schafly has a good point in the advice offered, maybe not the reasons. What I dare ask is what are you going to do with a Major in English without additional schooling? Sell Mattresses at the local furniture store?
I think the main point should be to emphasize the fact that a lot of degree are dead end degrees. Note that UW Oshkosh a GPA requirement is the same as that of Philosophy, a 2.0. The more worthwhile degrees are at a 2.5 or higher. Reason for this? English is a worthless degree. Any required training beyond that achieved in High school is worthless. Most Americans read at between the 8th and 9th grade level. http://www.pfizerhealthliteracy.com/pdfs/The_Health_Literacy_Problem_v2.pdf
But enough here, I don’t want to step on any liberal art student toes. They might go flaming gay on me and try to shove a pile of rotted logic at me to justify just how useful the degree they are after is worth. I mean what would Michelangelo have done without and Art degree? (For you Liberal Art students that don’t understand Sarcasm, that was a sarcastic remark.)
Now to address another complaint concerning Schafly’s paper. When expressing our own ideas why the hell should I provide sources? New ideas don’t need to cite someone else. Granted she could have extrapolated further on this concept. Maybe Cho Seung-Hui was an English major because his GPA was high enough for anything else. Or he realized too late that the degree is worthless and he didn’t have enough worthwhile classes to get a different degree.
Further to point out why Evil Bender had such an easy job ripping her apart, because she was not trying to build a paper against him.
I would like to make notation of the fact that he doesn’t provide source’s to support some of his claims. If I want to develop critical thinking skills I will take a science class, maybe a philosophy course depending on what kind of critical thinking I want to learn to do.
In closing and since I am not writing an essay let me say that Liberal have not critical thinking skills. They don’t learn about consequence of actions, but instead focus on avoiding responsibility and the way it “should be according to them.”
Evil Bender, do the world a favor, go get a job working at McDonald’s get rid of your internet connection and quit trying to share your great reservoirs of convoluted wisdom with idiots that are easily confused and mislead.
Dear anti-stupidity,
When expressing our own ideas why the hell should I provide sources?
Thank you for making my point for me.
In closing and since I am not writing an essay let me say that Liberal have not critical thinking skills. They don’t learn about consequence of actions, but instead focus on avoiding responsibility and the way it “should be according to them.”
Thanks for summing up in one paragraph why coursework in English is so important! At very least, it could teach you to proofread, to not rely on assertions presented without evidence, to not abuse quotation marks, and to not make hasty generalizations.
Kisses,
EB
One thing I learned while acquiring my English degree was to analyze sources. Lynne Cheney (Veep’s wife) founded the organization, served as director (followed by Wm. Bennett), and supposedly it supports “academic freedom.” This support which can be financial, or in the case of Ms. Schafly, public discourse, supports “freedom” as long as the viewpoints support one specific and approved political agenda (sounds rather, um, communist, eh? And not all free).
And as a college English teacher, I make two points about the titles of courses. One, it’s English, so naturally we ‘play’ with the language. Two, it’s English, and frankly students aren’t interested, so just like a Madison Avenue ad agency, we try to sell our “product” to an apathetic public. The course work itself is valid and often rather traditional. (Psst, just don’t tell the students that!)
Now the question could be: why are students apathetic? Community college growth has outpaced growth of all other postsecondary institutions, likely because high school graduates no longer graduate with the ability to read and, therefore, require remediation. Perhaps that education failing authored by public and political policy pleases Ms. Schafly?
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