you apparently [cute bunny].

read it again you [cute bunny] and you’ll see that you have no case.

[cute bunny]…

[cute bunny].

I have shown that order demands information. Your presuppositions [that there is no God] won’t allow you to see the observable obvious.

–Sirius Knott

You still didn’t prove that order demands information.

Information is information, whether or not the implications of the term fit your presuppositions in this case.

–Sirius Knott

Occam’s razor again, the simpler conclusion is that matter has fundamental properties, adding a designer add complications, we need further evidence before it can be added.

Sirius Knott is in fact a pseudonym, but I assure you I am quite serious.

Now, of crystals, you stated that they “are highly ordered yet require no additional information”… wait. There it is. No ADDITIONAL information. But where did the original information come from?

Jack,

You presume that weather is natural is undirected, which is purest bunk from an observational standpoint. How can we observe weather PATTERNS if they’re undirected. Weather follows its own program based on an intimidating number of factors, but the patterns are undeniable. Ask a meteorologist. They’ll admit that their predictions aren’t flawless, mostly because they can’t account for all of the factors, but there are observable recurring patterns that make weather predictions reasonable. By and large, they prove right, unless I’m planning a picnic. But we see seasons, weeather fronts obey rules of temperature and humidity, et cetera.

I’m sorry, but you haven’t demonstrated your case.

Nothing does not produce something. It’s a simple rule of logic.

Why do you refuse such easily observable truth?

–Sirius Knott

Regardless I ask that you prove your assertion that ‘order demands information’ crystal’s are highly ordered yet require no additional information beyond the fundamental chemical and physical properties.
Life it would seem is in a similar situation, the order arises from the fundamental chemical and physical properties. ID proponents have never proven the requirement that order demands information.

We have an example of order arising from fundamental properties of matter (in crystals) so we can safely make the assumption that other instances of order require no external intervention, until evidence is shown for an additional party to be involved Occam’s razor demands we exclude it from the theory.

As for the origins of life, if you can bring any evidence in favor of intelligent design knock yourself out. So far you’ve merely provided bland aphorisms like “nothing cannot produce something.” Calling the complex chemistry and geology of the early Earth “nothing” is simply denial.