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		<title>Comment on On literary interpretation and &#8220;authorial intent&#8221; by Evil Bender</title>
		<link>http://evilbender.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/on-literary-interpretation-and-authorial-intent/#comment-27139</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil Bender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 12:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Felix: thanks for your thoughts! A couple points: valid meanings are ones that are generally supported by evidence and not contradicted by evidence. So, there isn&#039;t one &quot;right&quot; meaning, but there are invalid readings (e.g. if you claimed a work created in 1999 was about the 9/11 attacks, you&#039;d have a invalid reading).

I don&#039;t want my argument to undercut communication. It is absolutely true that much writing--and much art in general--has something to say (though that may not be the same as a &quot;message,&quot; exactly). But even leaving aside the fact that clearly authors aren&#039;t always aware of every aspect of every choice they make, sometimes communication is undercut by simple mistakes (grammatical errors that reverse meaning; misstatements of fact, etc.)

So the first part of your statement , &quot;she has a specific message in it,&quot; is true: the attempt in the note was to communicate a message (though note that not all art shares this goal); the second part doesn&#039;t follow, though: having an intended meaning doesn&#039;t control meaning. It merely influences it. To argue otherwise would be to accept a particularly hard-line version of the authorial intent argument, and would require one to accept that something can only be in a text if the author intended them to be there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felix: thanks for your thoughts! A couple points: valid meanings are ones that are generally supported by evidence and not contradicted by evidence. So, there isn&#8217;t one &#8220;right&#8221; meaning, but there are invalid readings (e.g. if you claimed a work created in 1999 was about the 9/11 attacks, you&#8217;d have a invalid reading).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want my argument to undercut communication. It is absolutely true that much writing&#8211;and much art in general&#8211;has something to say (though that may not be the same as a &#8220;message,&#8221; exactly). But even leaving aside the fact that clearly authors aren&#8217;t always aware of every aspect of every choice they make, sometimes communication is undercut by simple mistakes (grammatical errors that reverse meaning; misstatements of fact, etc.)</p>
<p>So the first part of your statement , &#8220;she has a specific message in it,&#8221; is true: the attempt in the note was to communicate a message (though note that not all art shares this goal); the second part doesn&#8217;t follow, though: having an intended meaning doesn&#8217;t control meaning. It merely influences it. To argue otherwise would be to accept a particularly hard-line version of the authorial intent argument, and would require one to accept that something can only be in a text if the author intended them to be there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On literary interpretation and &#8220;authorial intent&#8221; by Felix Okot</title>
		<link>http://evilbender.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/on-literary-interpretation-and-authorial-intent/#comment-27138</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Felix Okot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 18:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice piece! I didnt realise that there is a possible third way of looking at meaning, apart from reader response and authorial intent. I found this a very persuasive method, however the question that one has to ask is, who decides which of the  &quot;mulplicity of meanings&quot; is valid? Just because someone can defend his &quot;meaning&quot; with a persuasive critical deployment, does it make this meaning valid? Do you reckon then that this third way of looking at the meaning veers more towards reader
I think the real problem at the heart of all your arguments is the question of COMMUNICATION! Do we beleive the author had a message to the reader? If so, then the author controls/determines the meaning of the text, and the task of the reader is to DISCOVER that meaning. The way you read a letter from your wife/husband would be different from the way you read an anonymous unsigned letter you have found in the park. You know your wife/husband &amp; and you beleive she/he has a message for you. You can not simply assign any meaning you wish to it. She has a specific message in it, she controls meaning!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice piece! I didnt realise that there is a possible third way of looking at meaning, apart from reader response and authorial intent. I found this a very persuasive method, however the question that one has to ask is, who decides which of the  &#8220;mulplicity of meanings&#8221; is valid? Just because someone can defend his &#8220;meaning&#8221; with a persuasive critical deployment, does it make this meaning valid? Do you reckon then that this third way of looking at the meaning veers more towards reader<br />
I think the real problem at the heart of all your arguments is the question of COMMUNICATION! Do we beleive the author had a message to the reader? If so, then the author controls/determines the meaning of the text, and the task of the reader is to DISCOVER that meaning. The way you read a letter from your wife/husband would be different from the way you read an anonymous unsigned letter you have found in the park. You know your wife/husband &amp; and you beleive she/he has a message for you. You can not simply assign any meaning you wish to it. She has a specific message in it, she controls meaning!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Does [sic] the NIV, the Satanic Bible, and Gay Sex Have in Common? by Evil Bender</title>
		<link>http://evilbender.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/what-does-sic-the-niv-the-satanic-bible-and-gay-sex-have-in-common/#comment-27136</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil Bender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 01:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;and didn’t the Lord had to create the manuscripts for the bible through His prophets and servants in order for us to know the truth of how we came about…and how we should live…if He didn’t then we’d all be doomed for hell by listening to the crap you men say&lt;/i&gt;

I think this may win the coveted &quot;most circular argument ever&quot; title!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>and didn’t the Lord had to create the manuscripts for the bible through His prophets and servants in order for us to know the truth of how we came about…and how we should live…if He didn’t then we’d all be doomed for hell by listening to the crap you men say</i></p>
<p>I think this may win the coveted &#8220;most circular argument ever&#8221; title!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Does [sic] the NIV, the Satanic Bible, and Gay Sex Have in Common? by Fanatical Godsta</title>
		<link>http://evilbender.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/what-does-sic-the-niv-the-satanic-bible-and-gay-sex-have-in-common/#comment-27135</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fanatical Godsta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Levi, Elisha, Murphy..you guys are so right...you others who think that being a Christian..a follower of Christ is stupid...then you go on and play foolish...call the word of the Almighty God insanity and hilarious and you&#039;ll find out on judgement day what insanity and hilarious is. And Steve...you asked Murphy if he can go without the use of the bible proof existence of God...then tell me...all you who think that we happened to be on earth through evolution...where there were some big explosion and we came from monkey...then tell me...HOW did this explosion happened to come about?? and didn&#039;t the Lord had to create the manuscripts for the bible through His prophets and servants in order for us to know the truth of how we came about...and how we should live...if He didn&#039;t then we&#039;d all be doomed for hell by listening to the crap you men say..of how we existed through some explosion...PLEASE! God created you and all you people do is turn on Him..smh..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levi, Elisha, Murphy..you guys are so right&#8230;you others who think that being a Christian..a follower of Christ is stupid&#8230;then you go on and play foolish&#8230;call the word of the Almighty God insanity and hilarious and you&#8217;ll find out on judgement day what insanity and hilarious is. And Steve&#8230;you asked Murphy if he can go without the use of the bible proof existence of God&#8230;then tell me&#8230;all you who think that we happened to be on earth through evolution&#8230;where there were some big explosion and we came from monkey&#8230;then tell me&#8230;HOW did this explosion happened to come about?? and didn&#8217;t the Lord had to create the manuscripts for the bible through His prophets and servants in order for us to know the truth of how we came about&#8230;and how we should live&#8230;if He didn&#8217;t then we&#8217;d all be doomed for hell by listening to the crap you men say..of how we existed through some explosion&#8230;PLEASE! God created you and all you people do is turn on Him..smh..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obama is the Antichrist according to &#8220;international policy researcher&#8221; by Margaret Tolo</title>
		<link>http://evilbender.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/obama-is-the-antichrist-according-to-international-policy-researcher/#comment-27088</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Margaret Tolo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post really is worthless with respect to getting to the bottom of your premise-- that Sanger is nuts (and I assume you also consider him wrong). Why wouldn&#039;t you spring for the $25 report and actually read it!  Then you could speak intelligently on what Sanger is proposing. As far as whether $25 is too much or not really isn&#039;t your call. He may need the money to fund other efforts of a public service nature and not simply looking to amass the $ for his own personal wealth- we simply don&#039;t know- but to randomly declare it&#039;s too much is just not a defensible statement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post really is worthless with respect to getting to the bottom of your premise&#8211; that Sanger is nuts (and I assume you also consider him wrong). Why wouldn&#8217;t you spring for the $25 report and actually read it!  Then you could speak intelligently on what Sanger is proposing. As far as whether $25 is too much or not really isn&#8217;t your call. He may need the money to fund other efforts of a public service nature and not simply looking to amass the $ for his own personal wealth- we simply don&#8217;t know- but to randomly declare it&#8217;s too much is just not a defensible statement.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dear Bernard Ayotte, (R-Bigotsville) by Evil Bender</title>
		<link>http://evilbender.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/dear-bernard-ayotte-r-bigotsville/#comment-27061</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil Bender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jay:

Thanks for your comment. Please respond to the actual substance of the discussion here. &quot;I know this politician&quot; does not refute the claim that the politician makes nonsensical and bigotted claims.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jay:</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. Please respond to the actual substance of the discussion here. &#8220;I know this politician&#8221; does not refute the claim that the politician makes nonsensical and bigotted claims.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dear Bernard Ayotte, (R-Bigotsville) by jay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[okay, i live in the same town as Bernard.... Ive known him all my life.... i have one question..... what the fuck are you smoking?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay, i live in the same town as Bernard&#8230;. Ive known him all my life&#8230;. i have one question&#8230;.. what the fuck are you smoking?</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Does [sic] the NIV, the Satanic Bible, and Gay Sex Have in Common? by Steven</title>
		<link>http://evilbender.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/what-does-sic-the-niv-the-satanic-bible-and-gay-sex-have-in-common/#comment-27054</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 07:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jesus saith unto him; I am the way the truth and the life, NO MAN cometh unto the father except by me. John 14:6 ( see also Proverbs 14:12 ). 
Jesus is a real historical person. Believe Him. Don&#039;t believe Him. For me, I believe. But sorry, I just dislike the NIV.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus saith unto him; I am the way the truth and the life, NO MAN cometh unto the father except by me. John 14:6 ( see also Proverbs 14:12 ).<br />
Jesus is a real historical person. Believe Him. Don&#8217;t believe Him. For me, I believe. But sorry, I just dislike the NIV.</p>
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		<title>Comment on John Mark Reynolds: Pew survey proves Christians are being oppressed by atheists by G.M. Jackson</title>
		<link>http://evilbender.wordpress.com/2010/10/01/john-mark-reynolds-pew-survey-proves-christians-are-being-oppressed-by-atheists/#comment-27052</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G.M. Jackson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 19:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suppose if one believes in a sky fairy one will believe one&#039;s own claims.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose if one believes in a sky fairy one will believe one&#8217;s own claims.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Golden Compass, part 2 by god's servant</title>
		<link>http://evilbender.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/the-golden-compass-part-2/#comment-27049</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[god's servant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God gave us an intellect to search for what, why and how we should live our lives. God is not related to us or anyone as he is the creator not anyone&#039;s relative. There is only one almighty GOD (all praise be to him) and he has no relatives. So search for those answers and do not lose focus of why we are here in this world. (to serve him and him only).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God gave us an intellect to search for what, why and how we should live our lives. God is not related to us or anyone as he is the creator not anyone&#8217;s relative. There is only one almighty GOD (all praise be to him) and he has no relatives. So search for those answers and do not lose focus of why we are here in this world. (to serve him and him only).</p>
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